the way things are going Europeans are gonna have to start fleeing to China to get a semblance of free speech 🤣

What I’m saying is that you could make an architecture similar to M1 which would have the same benefits of being fast and energy efficient, and slap a tailored Linux distro on top of it that just work out of the box. As a dev, I’d buy a decently built laptop like that in a second.

I’m really amazed that it’s been half a decade now and nobody has made a comparable SoC using ARM or RISCV tailored to Linux.

Completely agree, MacOS is turning into a dumpster fire. They keep adding features nobody asked for, and making the whole thing more bloated and flaky in the process.

MS ended support for it, so it won’t get security updates or fixes going forward.

the only brainrot here is your own

I always thought that Minix was a superior architecture to be honest.

Yeah, the foundation exists and it’s just going to be a question of building out on top of it. It’s also worth noting that the app ecosystem outside google is starting to become fairly complete as well. I find that in practice I only use a handful of apps such as email client, messenger, music player, weather app, a browser, a maps app, and a calendar. That accounts for most of what I do on my phone day to day, and there are mature open source options for all of these apps.

I imagine building on existing AOSP project like GrapheneOS or LineageOS would be the easiest path forward. There is already a decent ecosystem of open source apps available. You’d still need to figure out what to do with proprietary apps like Slack that regular people might need for day to day use.

Ultimately, the problem lies in lack of a hardware vendor willing to take make open phones that are geared towards running a custom OS on without having to jailbreak them. I really think the only way this can happen is if there was a vendor that focuses on providing a full stack open source system for mobile. Maybe a company like Liberux or even Framework will succeed at doing something like that at some point.

Liberux is using waydroid to add compatibility from what I’ve seen, so that may be the way forward where you have a base Linux system, and then a layer for running Android apps on top of it.

Yeah, pi3 isn’t quite there yet to drive a laptop. I expect RISCV to mature rapidly as well. There’s going to be a ton of money poured into it, and it’s always easier to do things the second time around. Apple has done a lot of the hard work designing the architecture o M series chips, and I imagine a lot of it will inspire RISCV designs now. This project in particular seems pretty promising as it specifically aims to deliver high performance designs https://github.com/OpenXiangShan/XiangShan

wonder if they use riscv chips

naturally, although the video just does it using a rom

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i kind of see this as a form of artistic expression.

it’s purely to see if it can be done

some good news on that front https://github.com/OpenXiangShan/XiangShan

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Exactly, most of the bloat on commercial sites isn’t there for the benefit of the user, but rather in order to monetize them. It’s ads, trackers, metrics, and all the other garbage that you don’t actually want.

The idea that these things wouldn’t exist without commercial analogs is silly. You do realize that things like BBS boards and IRC existed long before commercial social media platforms right? In fact, we might’ve seen things like social media evolve in completely different directions if not for commercial platforms setting standards based on attracting clicks, and monetizing users.