As much as I want to support the idea of a well supported, modernised graphical protocol system, wayland simply isn’t ready yet. There’s so much shit that simply doesn’t work, and they’re all made up of little niche cases that will take substantially longer than a few months to resolve, and I still haven’t seen anything that suggests Wayland has a practical equivalent to xorg.conf.

Is Alma Linux rolling their own version of Plasma with x11? Or are they just sticking with an older version of Plasma? Is anyone else planning on hacking x11 back into the DE?

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    Idk how long you’ve been around linux. Theres another old timer itt who brings up some of the things i will.

    People get popular support for saying Linus is a jerk. I never met the guy so idk. When I look back on decades of using the operating system with many components failing to be maintained because their creators couldn’t keep going, their lives changed or they simply lost interest, soulless grifters like poettering ruining the experience for the rest of us and the community in general struggling to stay afloat in the waves and eddies created by the motion of massive multinationals and governments swimming beneath our feet, I understand his behavior.

    Wayland is another in a long line of rushed rollouts that don’t consider your use case because it’s not for you.

    I truly hope someone picks up maintaining and patching plasma, but if it’s anything like past times, consider sticking with the old branch. If that seems like a dead end, maybe switch to a distribution with lts versioning.

    Remember how many people stuck with alsa until pipewire came along.

    The year of the linux desktop is gonna be a rough one.

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      Pipewire and alsa are completely different things. Pipewire uses pulse/jack which then use alsa, or am I missing something?

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        People used to use alsa directly (he’ll, I used to use oss directly).

        When pulseaudio came along it broke a bunch of stuff and had a lot of problems but there was massive institutional pressure to adopt it because everyone wanted a unified framework.

        Pipewire provides that framework and doesn’t break like pulse did. Admittedly pulse has gotten better but still sucks to interact with.

        I made that statement right after suggesting the op stick with the x11 plasma branch until a maintained fork appears.

        It’s not exactly a one to one comparison.