I’m currently dual booting Linux Mint and Windows. Love Linux, hate Windows. So why I am dual booting?

Because I own and use a Microsoft Zune HD.

It’s probably the best product Microsoft ever came out with. It’s so much lighter than my phone, it has a ton of my music on there, and it has an HD FM radio tuner. However, the software that runs it has never been released so there aren’t really any good options to try and manage the Zune on Linux (some people have tried, it doesn’t really work). So I keep a windows partition just so I can manage a 16 year old mp3 player and radio. That has to be the worst reason to keep a Windows partition, right?

(The reality is I would probably get rid of the Windows partition if I could, I’ve tried but something seems wrong with the BIOS on my computer idk I’m not a programmer. The Zune software is pretty janky at the point so uploading new music barely works anyway).

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    2 months ago

    Sometimes I need to show off that I beat Microsoft Minesweeper on Expert in slightly less than 200 seconds.

    My time is by no means competitive, the current record for Expert is less than 30 seconds. I am also aware the score could be faked by rewriting the .ini file. In fact there are numerous cheats which could simulate a win. That is why when I share this accomplishment in person, it is only with those who know I would never compromise my integrity with such dishonest behaviour.

    Most people have been more impressed (if impressed at all and haven’t left by the time Windows has booted) that the drive Windows is installed on still works, since it was made in 2005 (Seagate ST3160023AS).

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    2 months ago

    No that’s the best reason to fuel boot and I absolutely love it. I:'my adding it to my list of perfectly reasonable reasons to fuel boot or not switch to Linux. Right next to “I need this software for work”

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    2 months ago

    My only reason to dualboot Windows is I own two Xbox controllers that randomly decide, from time to time, that they need to be updated and will refuse to connect to Linux otherwise.

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    2 months ago

    Well I get why you stick to a hardware device you like… but honestly that’s 15 years old. You can get something better and cheaper delivered to your door tomorrow.

    I personally went down a similar path while discovering https://www.rockbox.org/ was still a thing, looking for old iPod or Archos I could refurbish, checking 2nd hand market, etc. As much as it pains me to say, unless you are a collector it’s not “worth” it. You can get something ridiculously smaller, with more memory, more features, etc for the price of a meal.

    IMHO it’s better to get rid of Windows by purchasing new hardware that is genuinely interroperable by supporting standards.

    Ideally you’d check something like https://www.hanselman.com/blog/how-to-update-the-firmware-on-your-zune-without-microsoft-dammit but it might be more work than you want to put it. Maybe your local HackerSpace could help though.

    My point finally is that freedom is quite important and feeling trapped daily is not worth ~$50.

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    2 months ago

    I have an old laptop with windows on it out of a combination of pure laziness and im in a no spend condition and need to buy a solid state drive.

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    2 months ago

    Couldn’t you just run a Windows VM instead? Something like WinBoat might be perfect for your needs. I use it to run Apple Music, but it occurs to me that I could probably run iTunes through it to sync my iPod.

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        2 months ago

        It’s pretty cool, albeit fairly resource-heavy. You are, after all, running a whole-ass Windows inside Linux.

        However, you can shut it down when you’re not using it and you don’t run the risk of Windows fucking your boot drive.

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          2 months ago

          The Zune software could be run on XP. Running that in a VM on a more modern system shouldn’t bee too difficult.

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      2 months ago

      Most likely yes, and if it works, this is one of the easier options (without needing to develop anything or change workflow). However, not all devices work properly with this. iPhones on iTunes are particularly difficult, as (iirc) they sometimes change device ID immediately after connecting/initializing. If you pass through a specific “USB Host Device”, an iPhone connected to a Windows VM with iTunes may not work.

      If you pass through an entire USB controller, like an extra PCIe card or one from your motherboard (if it has multiple), this method should work on any USB device with any Windows tools/drivers.

      If a Linux native method exists (which it does according to other comments), that is usually easier to set up than a VM with USB passthrough, but it might change the workflow.

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      2 months ago

      I have an 8bitdo controller, and the software for customizing macros and updating firmware only runs on windows, and I just use a virtual machine with USB passthrough set up and it works amazingly.

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          I just use Virtual Machine Manager, the thing is that once you add the controller to the list of passthrough devices into the Windows VM, it’ll change (spoof? create a virtual device?) into another device ID meaning you then have to add that device afterwards and then you’ll be able to use the software to change stuff. Bit finicky, and it means it’ll have to be done each time one wants to boot up said VM and change stuff. But it works.

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        2 months ago

        How can you do this without bricking the controller? Have you ever tried updating its firmware this way? In my experience thats a big nono.

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          As long as you do pass through of the USB device (or USB host controller), it should be fine. The VM acesses it directlty without passing through a virtualized version of the device (like what normally happens with sound, network, graphics) and the VM can even DMA to it. Down side is that the hardware isn’t visible to the host anymore, so if you pass through a GPU, it’s used exclusively by the VM, not the host. If you connect a monitor to the GPU, you see the VM, not the host. So you can only do this with hardware that is intended specifically for use within the VM. Zune management sounds like an ideal use case. See IOMMU if you’re interested in some if the tech side if it.

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    2 months ago

    I remember back in the day when I used mp3 players, I had a good experience using banshee to manage them from linux, both an iPod and a Sansa Fuze. Of course it looks like banshee was last updated in 2014.

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    2 months ago

    I have the absolute worst reason for dual booting Linux and Windows

    “I need to use WSL”

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      2 months ago

      Thanks - I’ve seen Winboat mentioned several times in the comments, I’m going to try that first.

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    2 months ago

    There is one app that only runs on Windows and that’s my dual boot cross to carry. I hate it so much that I am running a Windows VM and run the same app there until the lag is too much and have to boot to Window to finish the job.

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    2 months ago

    So I keep a windows partition just so I can manage a 16 year old mp3 player and radio. That has to be the worst reason to keep a Windows partition, right?

    Yeah, and you can often assume that someone else has had that problem and was also enough of a nerd to fix it for us all.

    https://github.com/Klar/ZuneSyncLinux

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    2 months ago

    For me it’s hdmi 2.1 on AMD. Starting to really hate my decision of buying a TV as a gaming display, purely because of how much windows sucks. Just booted it up to see if my samba server was working, only to find it has no internet connection whatsoever. Wifi also connects but no internet access, but i know for a fact it’s working because both on linux and my phone it’s working fine. Already tried a bunch of troubleshooting, including resetting the adapters competely. I’m starting to suspect the mullvad vpn app somehow fucked something up, because i’m not connected to their servers right now because i haven’t added more time to my account. Internet should work if i disable the vpn app though, so idk what’s wrong there.

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        2 months ago

        Yeah it turned out that lockdown mode was enabled. Disabling it fixed the issue. I guess i can’t really put the blame on windows this time lol

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        2 months ago

        Yeah but not with all its features. Usually you have to sacrifice vrr, which is a dealbreaker for me.

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          Not sure if there’s a difference but I have a steam deck connected to a 2.1 capable dock and it works even with VRR (although it sporadically forgets that VRR is a thing and I have to reboot the TV)

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            I don’t know what refreshrate you’re using, but from my understanding if you go above 4k60hz it doesn’t run in full rgb colorspace anymore, because the amd drivers only support up to hdmi 2.0, so even when the hardware supports it, hdmi 2.1 bandwidth can’t be used.