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  • Nothng official, sorry, wish I did!

    Mostly personal experience. But that experience is also shared among a group of peers and friends in the SMB space where their clients think they can keep stuff on externals in an office safe only to find they’ve gone tits up nearly every time they pull them out a couple years later. And not the enclosures, the drives themselves - they all have external drive readers for just these kinds of circumstances.

    In the enterprise you’d get laughed out of a datacenter for even suggesting cold drives for anything. Of course that’s based around simple bit rot concerns, and why file systems like ZFS use a methodology to test/verify bits on a regular basis.

    If nothing else, that bit rot should be enough of a reason to not store data on cold drives. It’s not what drives were designed (or tested) to do.



  • If the NAS is always making noise then it’s not parking the drives. Check the config - I’m not sure QNap does drive parking by defaut if at all. Fron what I’ve seen, they’re a Business Class solution first, consumer second (I have friends in the SMB space, QNAP has been a common solution for their clients), business doesn’t want drive parking.

    I have an ancient Drobo that does parking and uses a large fan (so it can run at lower speeds, meaning quieter) - with 5 drives I don’t hear it over ambient room noise (the fridge is louder).

    Give us some numbers on space. My NAS is 8TB that I keep 20% free (It complains with less free space and performance drops), my server has an 8TB data drive, with two 4TB externals attached. I replicate data from the server to each device on a rolling schedule for data redundancy, and also use a cloud backup for the important stuff (less than 1TB).

    The point I’m trying to make is maybe you don’t need a RAID NAS right now if your critical data size is below available single-drive capacity, and may be better served by multiple drives and cloud backup. (Also, a NAS is still a single point of failure - RAID isn’t redundant data it’s redundant drives. Even with ZFS it’s still a single data store that can fail, which is why businesses still have backups of their RAID systems).

    To paraphrase an old racing saying: quiet costs money son, how silent you want it to be? 🤪

    Edit: Some links on QNAP drive spindown

    https://www.qnap.com/en/how-to/faq/article/why-cant-my-nas-drives-enter-standby-mode

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7ItW76PyBw

    Edit2: Even SSD is like 4-6x the cost of spinning disk per terabyte https://diskprices.com/?locale=us&condition=new%2Cused&capacity=8-8&disk_types=external_ssd%2Cinternal_ssd%2Cm2_ssd%2Cm2_nvme





  • The number one thing you can do, by orders of magnitude, is to start with power-friendly hardware.

    For example, my previous server was an old gaming machine. It’s lowest idle power consumption was 80 watts. That was with running an OS that permitted heavy power reduction control, and enabling every power saving feature in the BIOS.

    Compare that to my 2019 Dell Optiplex Small-Form-Factor desktop I’m running as a server. The power supply is rated for 80 watts, MAX. It idles at 20w, peaks at about 70w when converting multiple videos simultaneously. This with an 8 TB enterprise drive for data.

    So 1/4 the power draw when idle, where it spends perhaps 90%+ of its time. Even things like Resilio Sync and Syncthing don’t significantly raise CPU time.

    Streaming with Jellyfin or Mediamonkey have nearly no CPU impact.

    There’s nothing in heavier hardware you could tune to get down to 20w.







  • Others have mentioned backup, I’m going to reiterate that.

    Backup, backup, backup.

    I have an (old) NAS that frankly I don’t trust to not die. Then again, anything can die, so it’s just one component of my data duplication.

    I also have my server which is authoritative for all data, which is then duplicated (on schedules) to the NAS and 2 external drives, so I have 4 local copies.

    All mobile devices sync important data to my server.

    Power

    My NAS idles about 15w. It’s 5 drives, so honestly that’s quite low and tells us it spins down drives.

    My server idles at 20w, using NVME as the boot drive, a large data drive, and an SSD for virtual machines. It’s power supply maxes at 80w (which it approaches when I’m converting videos with handbrake).

    Before this my server was an old gaming desktop that idled around 100w.

    So my server today is a 5 year old Small-Form-Factor Desktop that I picked up for $50. I paid more for the RAM I added. It has enough room internally for one 3.5" drive and the 2.5" SSD…

    It’s also quiet - the CPU and power supply fans double as case fans.





  • Uggh, feel bad for them.

    I’ve tried for years to get friends and family to have their data sit in a single point in the house and use backup services. That would be a massive improvement.

    Family won’t listen, so I’m building minicomputers for them all that will handle it. Just have to configure their devices to store data there.