bunches of refurbished t-series thinkpads out there - t480, t430, etc. apparently the 490 is one to avoid. I got a t470 some months back for $150 - put mint on it and have been very happy with the performance.

got a t470 refurb for $150 last year and have been very happy with it.

tried to do that but mom wanted some esoteric bookkeeping software to function - so back to windows for her