• JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world
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    19 hours ago

    Isn’t spirulina more effective for capturing carbon than trees? And also you can eat it in the way you don’t normally eat trees? Trees are great and all but why do you want me to be angry about algae?

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    22 hours ago

    It sounded cool a couple of years ago, but it was first installed in 2021 and I’m yet to hear of it really going anywhere.

  • xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 day ago

    homeless people find sitting in the shade of trees to be comfortable, and the city whole point of urban design is to make them uncomfortable and to suffer

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    1 day ago

    It’s not an either/or thing, the tank in the picture is literally sitting under a tree

  • Günther Unlustig 🍄@slrpnk.net
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    1 day ago

    Does this count too?

    I already posted this on !balconygardening@slrpnk.net. .

    I’m purposefully growing duckweed on my balcony.
    I’m doing !hydroponics@slrpnk.net, and by doing that, I have lots of waste water with still good fertilizer in it.

    Duckweed is one of the fastest growing, nutrient densest and least demanding plant out there, and you can just scoop it out with a strainer.

    It’s exponentially growing and if you don’t wanna eat it, it makes great organic fertiliser or animal feed with lots of protein and micronutients!

  • TORFdot0@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    I think it’s probably cheaper in the long run to self host a tree instead, unless you live in an apartment with absolutely no green space. But I’d rather get a VPF and host a tree there if I had too

    • hazel@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      18 hours ago

      Problem with VPFs is irrigation throttling, or lack thereof. Most people are cool, but I’ve heard of people hosting exotics which just max out downstream 24/7. Plus everyone has root access which gets abused frequently.

  • Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 day ago

    The most dystopian thing I’ve seen… Fuck, idk, it’s all pretty dystopian these days, I’ve lost count

  • bluewing@lemm.ee
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    1 day ago

    Yeah, those are going to last at -40F/-40C nights we often experience where I live. Nor do I see them being able to add any cool relief from their shade on a hot day.

    That said, it is hard to grow healthy trees in the poisoned soils of a big city. They tend to struggle and be sickly when choked by concrete and asphalt.

  • Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Short answer: the bank won’t give your shiny new tree-planting business a loan as easily as it will to a “liquid tank tree replacement” one.

    Long answer:

    • Trees take time to grow
    • Trees need to be planted
    • Trees make shade
    • Animals like birds and insects like bees and mosquitos like to live next to them
    • Trees don’t need electricity
    • Trees take in heat radiated from the pavement
    • Trees don’t look cool

    While algae are more efficient at turning CO2 into oxygen in theory, in practice algae don’t have a good climate in such a tank (no oxygen without ventilation, i.e. constant electricity and they get cooked through the glass).

    All in all, more of a gimmick than anything.

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        20 hours ago

        Yeah this is a big problem I see often. You have underground utilities? Tree planting becomes a huge thing. And in a lot of these walkable areas, places you’d want trees, folks tend to also prefer not to have the wires overhead with telephone poles everywhere, and so they’ve been backed into a corner.

        I did just sit through a presentation by my local environmental commission where they addressed the issue. The solution seems to be trees bred for the specific environment: deciduous provides shade but doesn’t drop a lot of leaves; can grow tall but the root ball grows in a certain way so as not to interrupt sidewalks and utilities; hearty and resilient. I can’t recall the trees, but they were described as essentially not naturally occuring.

        • sneekee_snek_17@lemmy.world
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          18 hours ago

          Ginkos are very common. They’re ancient trees, and almost went extinct, but they’re tolerant of the rather extreme conditions of an urban environment and very pollution resistant

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      1 day ago
      • Trees take time to grow

      Sure, of course not removing literally all of them in the first place is preferable but hindsight is 20/20 I guess. And good things come to those who wait.

      • Trees need to be planted

      True, planting a tree seems a bit easier than installing a weird tank though, despite time to grow.

      • Trees make shade

      Good.

      • Animals like birds and insects like bees and mosquitos like to live next to them

      Good.

      • Trees don’t need electricity

      Good.

      • Trees take in heat radiated from the pavement

      Good.

      • Trees don’t look cool

      Bullshit.

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      Aren’t like half of those bullet points positives? Also in addition to what you said once you got a tree you got a tree, those tanks need constant maintenence and cycling which I doubt anyone is going to bother with for more than a year after installing them.

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        1 day ago

        The comment you replying to was trying to not so subtly point out this is a business plot and little else. Nobody is going to pay a subscription fee to have a tree in front of their business, but they might cough up money for a third party to maintain a tank of algae out front if it was sold right