This post only mentions that the installer works, but does the actual application work? Don’t get me wrong, the installer working is still progress.
the application has worked for some time; it just required a windows copy or piracy to actually get the application files
Rude.
next time ask nicely
Okay well, lightroom Classic is the last thing I’m booting into Windows for. I’ve tried a few times to get into Darktable but the learning curve is steep and blah blah blah. Could you please expound on your earlier comment? If there’s a trick for getting Adobe software to play nicely it could be life changing for me. Are you saying that the software installs fine with Wine/Proton, the issue is the installer/Creative Cloud? Thank you so much!!!
it’s a bit of a pain, but this post here offers an in-depth explanation how to set up photoshop CC 2024, and should be adaptable to other adobe software and more recent versions.
alternatively, if you don’t mind using a version that’s a few years out of date (but well tested and supported), this script streamlines the whole setup process and has been successfully used to accommodate lightroom.
i hope this all helps. good luck!
Explain.
That means people need to have another excuse for not using GNU/Linux even though they complain 24/7/365 about Windows.
gimme after effects on linux and ill be happy
No, it means I can install Photoshop and InDesign for the couple times a year I need to edit a file in my line of work, and I no longer need to boot into Windows twice a year just to use them.
This is amazing news!
FWIW .psd support in GIMP is getting pretty good. Not sure what your use case is but it might be worth checking out if you haven’t used it for a while.
if you are doing such light work, krita and inkscape might be right up your alley.
not that it matters anymore now that adobe stuff is supposed to work better.
They are up my alley, I use them personally.
I receive the Adobe files and I modify them slightly and send them back.
Still no autocad on Linux. Freecad works, but importing dwg files from autocad, which almost everyone uses, is always messy.
People have very good reasons for not switching to Linux. Not everyone is a computer/software enthusiast. Most people dont want to deal with the different for the heck of it, especially when the current solution works well enough (which windows does no matter how much we like to shit on it for fair reasons.)
get that and other common specialty software like autocad and stuff to run reliably, and there would be even less of a barrier for people to switch. i wish valve sponsored more of this work beyond running games. i love that it does but most people’s bread and butter must come here.
exactly! i tried linux couple of years ago and loved it, i used to dual boot, but i couldnt get the adobe suit running so i just gave up since i rely on it for my job. its not like i love adobe or something, i hate it, but i absolutely need it for my job so i cant really switch, so im stuck on windows. if linux supported the apps that i need like adobe suit and some 3d programs then i would switch asap
a lot of people use the proprietary software not because they necessarily like it but because it’s industry standard and we have to since they cornered the market.
i personally only switched to linux after i left the field. photoshop ran at the time but it was janky enough i couldn’t do the work i needed to do with it!
switch. i wish valve sponsored more of this work beyond running games
Why would they want to do that? If there’s sufficient demand, companies like Adobe have enough billions in change to fund that effort.
yeah that’s a problem. but we also need a lot of work on this side of wine.
they can certainly bring more people to their platform at a time computers are getting expensive to build, but integrators buying in bulk can wrestle better prices.
Solid works, Inventor, Bambu, Fussion, Orca Slicer, ProgeCAD, AutomationDirect software too
I think that’s all I have on my laptop
i’m pretty sure orca slicer is native on linux.
I use it on Linux. Crashy but it works.
Great news for bloatware enthusiasts ᐠ( ᐛ )ᐟ
More like great news for all of those people trapped on windows due to needing that software for work who can now make the switch
I am way too happy using GIMP now to make use of this.
Same, but Krita
I haven’t gone too deep with Krita yet but I did try out some digital painting in it a few months ago and the brushes and brush dynamics were really nice to use.
There are some things I still can’t get used to - the “Photosphop compatible” keybinds still aren’t 1:1 with Photoshop, and the way that several tools have been replaced by brushes just feels weird to me.
That said, it is MUCH more natural for me to use that GIMP.
Me too, up top! Recent releases made some really good improvements on ui and editing, too. Good times.
If someone can get DXO PureRaw and Lightroom to work on Linux, I’ll switch immediately and won’t look back.
Just to put it out there: There are some excellent options for a linux-native photography stack which also work on windows and mac if you’re interested in trying those out before switching. Darktable and Rawtherapee are both excellent raw developers and Digikam for library management and light editing. You should find that you can pass files between each for a seamless workflow. If you did switch to Linux you would also get Geeqie which is blazing fast for inspecting, culling and rating raw files and is also interoperable with the above apps.
A really good resource for FOSS and Linux photography is pixls.us
Sweet, thanks for the recs! Man if there’s a program out there that can cut down on culling time that would be amazing! It’s consistently the most painful part of the process…
No probs :) You will love Geeqie then! Learn (or set) the basic shortcuts and a progressive marking/rating workflow and you’ll be flying. I used to absolutely hate culling but now it’s my favourite part of the process!
have you tried it? adobe programs usually work, it was the installer that was broken.
i never tried lightroom though, i’m a bit curious if it’d work well.
I haven’t tried to be honest, I haven’t had much time to tinker around. I have a spare laptop that my work gave to me that was functioning fine but they were going to toss. Haven’t done anything with it yet so I may give it a try when I have more time on my hands.
I used Krita for the first time the other day and it was a lot more slick than Gimp. Not a professional though, just got a hobbyist interest in graphic design.
I only discovered Krita in the last couple of years and have been using it almost entirely instead of Gimp. Also not a professional, mostly use it for ttrpg stuff like maps and character or vehicle tokens, but it has been a lot smoother for me. I have never used photoshop, so I can’t compare to that though.
yeah I only recommend krita now, GIMP works but it is not easy to learn
Can anyone recommend a native Linux app similar to Premiere Pro?
DaVinci Resolve or Kdenlive.
100% DaVinci Resolve. It’s a full-bleed, professional solution on top of a large hardware ecosystem.
I’ve used random Linux based video editors in the past, like 15-17 years ago. They were… Not great.
Later, I did a handful of projects with premier pro CS6, really liked it.
It’s been almost a decade since I’ve done any video editing, until literally a few hours ago when I needed to make a simple wedding video for my friend. Cut together a couple camera angles, some PiP, do some color correction, a couple fades and one linear swipe transition.
I’m running Bluefin, so I went the path of least resistance, and just checked the flatpack catalog for the highest rated and most downloaded video editor.
That was kdenlive. I found it to be fairly user friendly, and powerful enough for my needs. The GUI reminds me of CS6, though it’s been awhile since I used it, so that may be less true than I’m remembering.
Hardware acceleration for encoding didn’t work on my AMD 7840U, but… I didn’t try very hard. Maybe there’s a workaround, and it may not even be the programs fault.
Take my recommendation with a grain of salt, because again, this isn’t my world, and I did zero research haha. Kind of funny that this post is the first one I stumble across after finishing that project.
I think KDEnlive is good as well, definitely the least terrible FOSS one. I never used Premiere Pro on that advanced a level, but for basic effects, keyframes, and title cards, it does quite well.
The main proprietary, “professional” one on Linux is Da Vinci Resolve, but I’ve never used it on Linux, since KDEnlive is just fine for me.
Honestly, in my opinion, every video editor is terrible to some extent; it’s having to deal with enormous amounts of data every second more than almost any other program on a computer, and even a semi-usable editor is a mind-bogglingly impressive feat.
I’ve used random Linux based video editors in the past, like 15-17 years ago. They were… Not great.
Would you mind rereading your first sentence?
Random? 17 years ago?
Random? 17 years ago?
What’s the issue here?
17 years is prehistory in IT years. Basing your comments on experiences from nearly 2 decades ago is just plain useless
That was just giving context to my limited experience with video editors.
If you read further you’ll see I talk about using CS6, and finally, most recently, kdenlive.
You were perfectly clear
Did you stop reading his comment after that sentence?
Here’s a video about kdenlive
I personally never want to touch anything Adobe ever again, but for my father’s and grandfather’s use cases, they still need it, so if it ends up working well, maybe it’ll finally allow them to use Linux.
‘Allow them’? 🤣
With these companies you either take it by yourself or do without. They don’t ‘allow’ shit.
Of course I don’t mean those art-stealing cannibals over at Adobe allowing them, I mean the Wine software allowing them, as it semantically implied.
Like I said, I wouldn’t touch Adobe with a 39.5 foot pole, but Photoshop is unfortunately necessary in those relatives’ industry, so getting on a high horse and telling them to use GIMP or Krita is not going to accomplish anything.
I’ve gotten used to GIMP and used it for a lot of cool thing (especially G’MIC for getting CD liner note scans looking quite good), but it’s just not a solution for serious professional use.
Agreed. It’s not realistic to expect that most people using Adobe for probably decades would start learning GIMP when their livelihood depends on that software.
I think the problem with Fusion360 under Wine is similar to this one - the software will work fine once you get in, but verifying your account for the launch (or install) just doesn’t communicate with the website correctly. Here’s hoping this passes muster and gets adopted into Wine for general public use, as I bet this will help a lot more than just Adobe products run under Wine.
Great news, now MS Office is all that’s left.
oh god please. i need ms office for uni, i use the browser version, and holy shit is it bad. it makes me regret google docs…
just curious, what do you need it for alternatives like wps and lo can’t do?
it’s excel isn’t it?
collaboration with classmates that use office, mostly
i guess we could use collabora or onlyoffice? but i feel like if i go to them asking “hey can you all create accounts on other services which you will find worse so i can avoid using a laggy website” they’ll just call me a nuisance
i guess we could use google docs, frankly docs is better than word online imo, but even then it’s trading trash for garbage…
it’s garbage that runs in a browser though!
Already runs in browser
The web version is very inferior to the desktop one. I had to use it at work and it was a very frustrating experience, e.g. missing many conditional formatting options.
Fortunately it takes only around 5 minutes of customizing the appearance of libreoffice to have it exactly how you want it
As if any amount of customisation is going to make LibreOffice not look like a janky mess on anything except the exact desktop environment and DPI settings one developer had…
Not that appearance is the most important thing in the app but whenever I open up Calc and half the UI is in dark mode, the other in light mode, half the UI is scaled to one DPI half to another, all the icons look like the best an unpaid software developer could do with 5 minutes in The GIMP circa 1995, it makes me cry a little bit.
lol no, Calc comes nowhere near the functionality of Excel no matter how close you make its UI.
I would imagine the vast majority of Excel written everywhere uses very basic features.
I haven’t used spreadsheet software in decades, but I have helped some convert to Windows to Linux. Some of them did use Excel, and therefore had to learn to use LibreOffice Calc, and while they had some expected difficulties during the initial learning curve, they did say a few months later to me that they were eventually satisfied with the software.
Nevertheless, I’m sure much like the GIMP/Photoshop comparison, Excel simply has features that Calc doesn’t.
I am mildly curious. Could you give an example of a feature that its likely many businesses and/or individuals use in Excel that simply doesn’t exist in, or is too difficult to implement in Calc?
Power Query is the biggest one. It used to be pivottables and formulae like xlookup as well, but Calc seems to have caught up to them nowadays.
I use excel for my daily work. I have no idea what Power Query is. I have never used a pivot table. I use xlookup maybe once a year. My co-workers immediately zone out when I try to explain that function to them. Most of them use + - * / sum and maybe an average from time to time. They think I’m a hacker because I wrote a custom function for a calculation I frequently need.
From my experience with people in offices I’m pretty sure I’m on the tech savvier side of the user base and the vast majority of users will never actually see the difference in functionality between excel and calc.
My bet is that there’s some weirdly complex things that become too niche edge cases that are difficult to transfer.
My opinion is when your logic becomes too complicated, maybe you want to have some sort of custom software. But, on the other hand, I understand that if it works already, there’s no need to break it either.
There are several types of basic Excel formulaes that don’t work on web Excel, and are ofc not in Calc either. Same with VBA integrations (within Excel and other Office/Windows services) that are used as core data transformation infrastructure to run entire companies, lmao.
I was not aware of these. Thank you for making me aware of them.
Not necessarily. It’s often less Calc’s capability that is at issue, and moreso its compatibility with imported sheets. Calc tends to have every feature I need when I make a spreadsheet.
That doesn’t exist. It’s Copilot 365 so you’re not missing much.
Microsoft 365 Copilot App
That’s the official name
Legit had somebody angry with me at work because their copilot button wasn’t showing in Outlook… Like what? If you can’t even write your own emails why are you even employed? “What would you say… You do here?”
Microsoft 365 Copilot App
Oh, you’re right. Without “App” though, that slipped through because someone wrote “the Microsoft 365 Copilot app” (a string you’ll see in official MS texts) in title case.
Without “App” though, that slipped through because someone wrote “the Microsoft 365 Copilot app”
That makes it semi-official. If Microslop put that on their official website for the product, that makes it official to a degree.
For the desktop app that only opens links to the webapp versions of Office
They did not fucking rename Microsoft Office. It’s dumb enough without everyone uncritically parroting the misleading clickbait.
Why in the fuck was there even a desktop app to just open the webapp links? That’s dumb as shit! Why the fuck would anyone care about it enough to rename it? That’s even dumber! Why would…
You get the picture.
The reality isn’t as bad, while simultaneously being even more dumb.
They did not fucking rename Microsoft Office.
Well, you’re half right, except Microsoft did rename Office years ago to “Microsoft 365”.
Edit: ignore the “Microslop” spelling. I have a uBlock filter enabled.
I would have hoped the context made it clear that I’m talking about the claim they renamed it to Copilot.
Nothing “half right” about it, but thanks for the pedanticness I guess.
That was horrendously misleading clickbait.
The changed the name of some stupid as shit “app” that only exists to open links to the Office programs on the web as webapps, which was apparently called “Microsoft Office App”. They did not change the name of Microsoft Office.
Simultaneously not as bad, but even dumber.
“Office” is completely removed from https://www.office.com/ The only place “Office” can still be found is in the urls. It’s called “Microsoft 365” now.
Edit: My mistake, “Office Home 2024” is still a thing you can buy apparently, but it’s not the full package and isn’t being updated. I’m pretty sure Libreoffice is a full replacement for “Office Home”
You’re right: strange how they keep shoving things nobody wants in the name of their product - first “Office” became “Microsoft 365” (subscription-only), then “with Copilot” (opt-out upsell) and now the mandatory Copilot upsell.
The silver lining is, small and medium-sized companies are increasingly ditching the pricey offering for employees who don’t have document editing a major part of their duties, making them realize LibreOffice is now good enough for their personal needs.
As much as I’d wish otherwise, there’s still genuinely no par to Microsoft Excel, the one software almost all businesses and orgs in the world run on. That status has remained despite Microsoft trying their best to enshittify it through forced Onedrive and now Copilot.
For personal use, Libre office does everything I need. For work, Excel is an absolute beast. It doesn’t necessarily scale, but for those one off data comparison, manipulation, or validation often I can do it faster and easier than I can in SQL. VLookup was kinda cool. Index match is definitely powerful.
I still generally avoid the vb macros though I’ve found solutions online occasionally where they’re useful. (Reviewing the code to confirm it’s not malicious first of course.).
I mostly just import the data into PostgreSQL and write queries. Not because excel can’t do it, but because I hate it.
Fair, I still use Office 2007 via Wine. Even the newest one has the killer features (unless it’s the awful web version) but your willingness to use it depends on how strong your aversion towards proprietary OSs and AI is
I only need simple excel and mostly rely on word processing so I’ve never actually known what exactly ms excel has that libre doesn’t
Is it like actual macro/coding capabilities within excel or just convenience/file compatibility stuff?
I think the main issue I’ve seen is when people need bug-for-bug (or nearly so) compatibility with VB macros.
For me it’s the macros. Simple ones will work in LibreOffice Calc but the more complex ones crash.
It works with Crossover, just hope they can port their changes one day.
I just googled “does Adobe run on Linux” yesterday and saw it doesn’t…
This is great news but my cc already updated to 2026 and I am not in a position to pirate atm
too late, I’m FOSS-pilled now.
FOSS is all about choice, isn’t it?
I would say it’s mainly about being free and open source.
In the freedom to modify software is implicitly stated the freedom to release competing works.
What do you think FOSS stands for?
I know that FOSS stands for Free (as in the freedoms defined by the Free Software Foundation) and Open Source (as defined by the Open Source Definition) Software.
That should also be free software, which Adobe products aren’t
Not if your choice is to give money to an evil company that writes proprietary software
It depends on the judge.
Until Adobe patch’s the installer and licencing server to prevent it from working at all. (Too cynical?)
They would be spending money on losing money at this point. There is literally zero benefit for them at n doing that and this point.
The floodgates are now officially open.
My thoughts as well. At least we can be cynical together.
My name is notthatyougiveafuck, and I approve this message. Also, fuck Adobe.
Who need licensing for Adobe products?
Who knows what bugs in other programs this fixed. This is great news!
