Hey all, just wondering if anyone has any good self-hosted security cam recs? Have plenty of space and server options, and next big thing on my list is to get rid of my battery cloud cams. They have worked well enough I guess for a few years, but really pretty slow and limited, wondering if anyone has experience with any self-hosted solutions, preferably with similar features ie: motion detection, app/webapp, maybe battery op?
I just checked out frigate, and I see it crutches on docker. Anything docker-free?0
For the cameras themselves, if you would be interested in DIY solutions and have some old spare Raspberry Pis around, you can turn them into streaming IP cameras and have some control over what camera specs and lenses you use. I can’t tell you how they compare to purpose-built cameras though.
Have seen some camera projects with Pis that look fun, would def like to try some one day.
It sounds like a fun project but I dont know if I’d rely on it for security purposes. Plus with the cost of Pis now you might as well but a full fledged camera.
This is maybe controversial, but I love the Ubiquiti security stuff. Cameras (interior and exterior) doorbells, etc, it’s all great. Pricey, but you get what you pay for.
And the data can stay local or be accessible via their services.
I chose to go local only, grabbed their UNVR and populated it with 4x 2TB drives and it has enough space to handle 7 cameras HD history for about a month.
I’ve experimented with ubiquiti cameras and for the most part I find them very overpriced for their quality point. They’re good cameras, but they’re not ONVIF compatible so if you want to get into their (super overpriced and limited) ecosystem you won’t be able to intermix other cameras easily.
A good example is their doorbell camera. It’s just not good. And they don’t have more than one model, so if you want a good one you’re buying something else, that won’t work in their software, so now you’re using two systems to watch your cameras.
I’m glad they work for you, but I don’t recommend getting into their camera ecosystem.
UniFi Protect now has limited ONVIF support allowing various 3rd party cameras to work with Protect.
UniFi cameras can have RTSP enabled also, but it requires UniFi Protect to enable the setting.
requires UniFi Protect to enable the setting.
Always some sort of cloud based dicking around with Ubiquiti stuff. I’m so over them.
You can self host Protect. It’s what I did for ages when I was using a few of their cameras. Don’t have to use cloud unless you want to.
There’s a lot of downsides to ubiquiti (I’ve been dunking on them all over this thread) but there’s a LOT of great stuff too, and being able to self-host their management suite if you choose to do so is GREAT. That doesn’t make me want to invest in their walled garden for cameras, but for people who want to get into a functional ecosystem they’re a great choice. Overall the price:performance curve is not worth it to me, though, but neither are apple products, even though I know they work well also.
Unifi Protect is what runs on the CloudKey/NVR physical device - you don’t need to have it go through to the Internet.
Remember, for better or worse Ubiquiti is positioning themselves as SMB Enterprise security - some companies won’t want their footage to be accessible outside their network.
+1 for Ubiquiti. I’ve got a Dream Machine and 5 camera hooked up, it’s great.
Dahua and Hikvision have great cameras but of course you shouldn’t trust them. Block them at the firewall. I bought mine a few years ago and preferred Hikvision for its better built in webserver for initial configuration.
On the hosting side you run Frigate, Zoneminder or BlueIris (Windows) to control the cameras and record their streams.
@Blue_Morpho @jabeez Huh I preferred Dahau. Thought the interface was nicer and the cameras low light looked way better.
Slightly off topic and something I read from somewhere else, but make sure whatever you use can write the date & time onto the camera images, otherwise it isn’t usable for any police / insurance claims.
I’d guess all systems do this now, but just wanted it to be on your checklist of features.
If the camera doesn’t do it, then the storage server must.
(And make sure the clock is sync’d to something 😉)
Noted, good point, thanks!
whatever you use can write the date & time onto the camera images, otherwise it isn’t usable for any police / insurance claims.
Weird. I mean, could you just access the properties of said picture to reveal the date taken?
Meta data could be edited/unintentionally overwritten
Sure, but the same is true for embedded timestamps. Just put a black bar over it with the time and date in white. Claim that the system does it that way, done.
When I needed this I reached for whatever generic rtmp cameras were well rated. Blocked them from external access (including outgoing!) at the firewall level and used Zoneminder and some custom scripts to monitor.
I tried to use Shinobi as my PVR for a while but dealt with a lot of usability and stability issues. Switching to Frigate has been much better. Configuration can be a bit difficult but it’s rock solid and really great. Plus the home assistant integration is top notch. I’ve had a lot of luck with Amcrest cameras and also managed to use a cheap Tapo camera within my setup.
For non cloud cams, someone posted here a while back about thingno firmware, takes cheap cams off the cloud. Works great on a wyze cam and was a gamechanger for me. Sttrroonngglllyyy recommend
Can confirm. Been using Wyze cameras for several years.
I’m not using this particular firmware but I bought them specifically because I could flash them.
Despite the firmware giving control of outbound traffic, I suggest blocking them at the network level.
Mine run on an sd card and if someone removes the sd card and reboots it or the card gets corrupted, it would fall back to factory settings.
I have quite a few of these and they are using very, very cheap sd cards and while none have failed, they most certainly will eventually.
Oh thank god. This solves my problem of no good integrated cam hardware on the market that isn’t cloudified or a huge security hole.
@empireOfLove2 @Windex007 Just keep them off the network. There is no reason for a security camera to have LAN access.
How you gonna get the video feed off an IP cam and onto your NVR without connecting it to your network?
You’re not seriously suggesting using old analog cameras in 2025, are you?
Maybe they mean main network? Lots of people seem to have a separate vlan with strict rules on what they can cobtact for IoT devices nowadays due to how poorly secured they are.
I had never heard of this so went looking. Super useful stuff here!
A link for anyone interested: https://thingino.com/
I see it supports many cameras, but you need to pull them apart and use a serial hookup to flash the firmware… but for the wyze cams and a few others you can flash them directly with an SD card.
I liked how cheap the wyze cams were but desperately wanted to get them offline. This was my silver bullet.
Holy sht. I know what im doing this weekend.
New to me & bookmarked. I am sure I have some crap lying around that this would work with.
Thank you!
Can we pin one of these posts? The same thing gets asked even few days and the answers don’t change nearly that frequently
Sigh, unfortunately not.
You should see the Linux community asking about which distro to use - now that’s where a pinned post is needed…
Huh? There’s a post about exactly that pinned at the tops of !linux@lemmy.ml for quite a while. Maybe I’m misunderstanding what you’re saying.
Well, slap me sideways with a boxed edition of Windows XP SP3.
I never knew that!
Thanks for sharing.
I’m fine with repeating “I use Arch btw”
I have a Reolink PoE camera. It works fine. As far as I can tell, it only uses the internet to check for updates and set the time, but I have it blocked off anyway. Home Assistant was actually causing it to check for updates, too, so that got disabled.
I don’t record, so I can’t help you there.
I will say that is a pain to get Home Assistant to display real-time video instead of a slide show.that’s weird i have some reolink cameras and they display fine through home assistant
you managed to get it in realtime though? may i ask how?
I haven’t, that’s the problem. It seems like it’s possible, but I’ve given up trying for the moment.
Eh? Shouldn’t it be real time already?
this is my configuration:
- camera_view: live type: picture-glance entities: [] camera_image: camera.cam_profile000_mainstream tap_action: action: noneI am using ONVIF integration for the camera.
Mine even play audio
For hardware, anything that can provide a local rtsp stream is a good place to start. I run cheap and cheerful mix of tapo, unbranded and homebrew esp32 cams. Offload the motion/object detection and alerts to something that can pull in the feeds, and isolate the cams to local network only.
WiFi usually ok, but at least hardwire the power to save future grief.
Using frigate to manage mine, which is running under Homeassistant - another project worth looking up.
A few images, featuring Freddie the visitor:
Tell me more about your homebrew esp32 cams, please!
Ok so the combination is:
- This camera board
- This external antenna
- This project
- A shell I designed myself in SketchUp (skp download). Note that’s not the final version, as I lost some design files.
And the finished item:
All assembled, they will give a decent enough feed to frigate for the basics. Just don’t expect miracles in the resolution or framerate departments. 3fps does fine for my use case of tracking critters.
Neat, thanks!
I’m not thrilled about the camera quality (compared to a purpose-built surveillance cam with 4k and good low-light performance) and I wish it had PoE, but damn, can’t beat that price!
(Side note: does anybody else find it weird that PoE is so uncommon and/or adds so much to the cost of these IoT dev boards? I get that normal people don’t want the hassle of running cable, but it feels like the hole in the market is bigger than it should be.)
I have Amcrest PoE cameras hooked to an Amcrest NVR for 24/7 recording and also Frigate running separately tied to Home Assistant to record clips and send notifications when people are out front/back of my house. It all works really well thus far after about a year of use.
Nice, checked them out, look like really nice cams, leaning towards battery doorbells to not have to deal with any wiring. Would love to have PoE, but sounds like a lot of work!
It was definitely not fun stringing Cat6 through the attic, but knowing myself, I probably wouldn’t have stayed on top of battery changes and I also wanted 24/7 recording since a battery powered camera can miss movement and start recording late or not at all. I also need a doorbell camera still but I’ve had trouble finding one that checks all the boxes.
Make sure any cameras you get are ONVIF compatible. That’ll give you the widest usability.
And while it’s great to be self-hosted, I’ve never found anything as good as BlueIris for camera software, even if it does cost $50/yr. I run it in a Dockurr/windows container, there’s a few projects out there that make Dockur easier to set up.
I personally use Frigate, which is default free, but has a plus tier for $50 a year (has custom AI training/models instead of default’s standard model).
Personally has all the features I’d want, curious what BlueIris brings, I’ve heard a bit about it.
I found out reolink cameras have an official integration partnership with home assistant. I just installed my front door camera.
Gonna throw in another Reolink recommendation. I use Blue Iris as my NVR and have both that and the Reolink integrations in Home Assistant for motion notifications and lighting control. The cameras are durable (even in my very cold temps like -30C) and have really good image quality. If you don’t have an NVR or Home Assistant, the built-in motion detection and app is still pretty good and you can just pop an SD card in for recording.
Have two Reolink doorbells in cart, battery powered and wifi (not ideal, but easy), thinking I’ll just add old HD to my router to use for recordings, and/or SD card.
If you have a powered doorbell, the Reolink cams can be powered by that too.
